i was reading an anti cult reddit post where a woman (ex mormon) was trying her hardest to discourage the mormons from visiting her and trying to convert her back.
a few others chimed in about their various methods (coming to the door naked, pretending to be practicing black magic, etc.
) which they claimed would have the mormons and jws running away as fast as possible.. somehow, i doubt it.
This particular teacher came behind me and grabbed me by the hair and forced me to my feet, and held me standing until it was over
Sorry to hear that Skully. The reality is that our parents subjected us to a bunch of unnecessary trauma to accomodate their delusion of righteousness.
that's what the word says.
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colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..
I know y'all were JWs at some point but do you every stop being the fools that it takes to be a JW?
@ Duran: So now people are fools if they don't observe your rules? And they are your rules, just like the Pharissaical rules were from the Pharisees, and not from God.
Like I said: Most people simply assume freedom where there is no specific prohibition in scripture. That is just common sense. "it is for freedom Christ has set you free" - Gal. 5: 1
The scriptures are full of warnings about falling victum to rule-oriented thinking such as yours.
“Be careful of the yeast of the Pharisees. I mean that they are hypocrites". - Jesus (Luke 12)
See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception [pseudo-intellectual babble], according to the tradition [and musings] of mere men, following the elementary principles of this world, rather than following [the truth—the teachings of] Christ. - Col. 2: 8 AMP
But I fear that somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve through his trickery, so your minds might be led astray from the simplicity that is in Christ. 2 Cor. 11: 3-4
You'll find little support for rule-shaming on this board. Both Christians here and secularists have had a belly full of the "yeast of the Pharisees" and their "pseudo-intellectual babble".
that's what the word says.
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colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..
Duran,
You seem to adpopt a position where if something is not given specific permission in scripture, it might be called 'wrong" by people like youself.
Most other people simply assume freedom where there is no specific prohibition in scripture.
After all, scripture says that "it is for freedom Christ has set you free" - Gal. 5: 1
i was once was told by an jw elder it was a rule not to gossip or swear as it could harm someone, but i guess the new light allows this.
it was bad enough when they were calling people worldly now i heard a jw gossiping about someone and it was mean.just another reason i would never go back.
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Hi Nancy,
Welcome. I came to the conclusion that the Kingdom Hall was simply too hostile of an environment for me .
I finally left when they admitted that the generation doctrine was a false prophecy by removing the prediction from the second page Awake magazine inset, where it had been for decades.
Like no one was going to notice. Duh.
that's what the word says.
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colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..
Duran,
How many things in your life do you practice that are not specifically commanded in the Bible?
In other words, do you place the same restrictions on yourself that you place on others?
brethern, and cistern, today's lesson from the golden calf is one of profound importance - never to be forgotten!.
w56 6/15 p. 360 - "we usually believe what we want to believe, and one thing we like to believe is that we do our own thinking.
they plant the thought and nourish it, but do it so subtly that we think it is our own.
The devil always tells you his game plan, he likes to hide in plain sight.
Thanks For the reference!
that's what the word says.
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colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..
So, you think these Shepards were living/sleeping out in the fields during wintertime?
Of course. The average daily highs and lows in Jerusalem on December 25th is 55 F high and 43 F low. I live at the same latitude as Jerusalem in Texas and sheep are outside year around, expecially around Christmas when the weather is so nice.
Remember, Jerusalem isn't New York, Totonto, or Moscow.
Why is it important to you for you to need a direct command "in the way that Paul states to keep observing his death, until he arrives" regarding Christmas?
There is no direct command in the bible to observe wedding anniversaries in the bible. Yet, Jehovah's Witnesses celebrate wedding anniversaries while at the same time they hypocritically condemn others for doing the same thing regarding God's birthday?
You would agree that is pretty twisted right?
the concept of strategic deception exists in several religious and ideological contexts.
in this article, we will explore and compare the theocratic warfare doctrine of the watchtower society and taqiyya in islam.
both concepts have parallels in their mechanisms of permitting deception for religious purposes but differ significantly in their application and historical roots.. 1. theocratic warfare: the "rahab method".
Excellent work !
that's what the word says.
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colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..
Duran, I do apologize for mis-interpreting your question. In re-reading your post, I can see that you are not questioning the fact that God was born, only questioning scriptural support for the December 25th date.
I found this helpful serveral years ago when I first read it:
The scriptural reference goes like this:
The Gospel of Luke indicates that the announcement of the Archangel Gabriel to Jesus' mother, Mary occurred six months after the conception of St. John the Baptist, with the date of the conception of St. John the Baptist being deduced from the prescribed time that his father, Zechariah, was serving in the temple when he received his own vision of the Archangel Gabriel. (Read the detailed explanation on this from Dr. Taylor Marshall here.)
The date of the Annunciation was celebrated by the Church since ancient times on March 25th, placing Jesus' birth nine months later in December, near the time of the winter solstice - December 25th.
that's what the word says.
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colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..
this so-called birthday
Duran, surely you have heard of Christmas? It's the greatest holiday the world has ever known - the birth of our Creator. "God was manifest in the flesh" - 1 Tim. 3: 16 KJV
